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CD-ROM breakdown?

Sunday 27 February 2005 om 23u12

So, I finally decided to get rid of Windows and to get Ubuntu, and now the crap begins.
I bought a brand new Maxtor 200 gig IDE drive and plugged it in, everything worked fine. Now it seems like there is a problem with either my primary IDE channel or with my CD-ROM-drive (an LG 12x burner for the record), it takes ages to get past the bios-screen and to get booting. I suspect my LG is the troublemaker, mostly because a few weeks ago this was my configuration:

  • Primary IDE
    • Master: harddisk 40 gig 5400 rpm
    • Slave: none
  • Secondary IDE
    • Master: harddisk 60 gig 7200 rpm
    • Slave: LG 12x CD-Writer

My secondary IDE port was forced to run in PIO mode, there is this “feature” in Windows XP that most people think of as a bug, and this is the description (found on this site:

PIO mode is enabled by default in the following situations:

For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only PIO mode on that device.

In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the device.

Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).

Long story short, insert a scratched CD and the whole channel get reverted to PIO, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I tried ti hack my way around it, but it looked like there were too much IO-errors to make it work in DMA-mode.

Now, with my brand new 200 gig maxtor, this is my new setup:

  • Primary IDE
    • Master: harddisk 40 gig 5400 rpm
    • Slave: LG 12x CD-Writer
  • Secondary IDE
    • Master: harddisk 200 gig 7200 rpm
    • Slave: harddisk 60 gig 7200 rpm

If I don’t attach the CD-ROM (and make all possible combinations with the HD’s) everything works fine. When I DO plug in the CD-ROM, it takes about a whole minut to get past the bios-screen, and Grub loading takes ages, I mean, it takes over a minute (without the CD-ROM it takes not even a second). This leaves me with 2 possibilities, either there is something wrong with my primary IDE-channel, or the CD-ROM is bitching. Seen the PIO story I had with XP, it seems to me LG needs to get thrown out of the window (as G8KeePeR suggested).

Believe it or not, I am installing Ubuntu as we speak… USING THE LG CD-ROM-drive!

It gets me so confused…

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  • 1. wap  |  Monday 28 February 2005 om 13u22  |  Belgium
         Gepost met Firefox 1.0.1 op Windows XP

    Seems like an annoying problem indeed.

    But, besides the slow boot, do you get any errors at all concerning the cd-rom?

    And, from how i understand it, you can boot up (only - very - slow) but can you use the cd drive after the boot?

    I’m not a Linux Guru, but i like searching for a solution, so who knows i can help :p

  • 2. whacker  |  Monday 28 February 2005 om 14u02  |  Belgium
         Gepost met Firefox 1.0.1 op Linux

    LG is crap, trust me :)

  • 3. jesus_  |  Monday 28 February 2005 om 15u52  |  Belgium
         Gepost met Firefox 1.0 op Ubuntu Linux

    Well, I still haven’t fixed the problem. When I detach the famous LG it still bugs sometimes. I am very sure it’s not an OS problem, it’s hardware, and I flashed my BIOS so that shouldn’t be the problem either.
    The problem is that this crap mobo doesn’t give any output concerning hardware detection. Fscking Intel :/

  • 4. x  |  Thursday 17 March 2005 om 04u22  |  United States
         Gepost met Firefox 1.0 op Ubuntu Linux

    I believe I have a Fix for your problem: just go into the bios and disable the cd from being a boot device. This was my problem. Sometimes this is tricky you have to disable “removeable devices” sometimes too. The lag is the bios waiting to see if the cd drive is bootable it can happen even if no cd is in the drive. Hope this is the problem and hope this helps -

    x - a fellow Ubuntu User

  • 5. jesus_  |  Thursday 17 March 2005 om 09u39  |  Belgium
         Gepost met Firefox 1.0 op Ubuntu Linux

    Thanks a lot for your comment, I will look into it and report :)

  • 6. Marc  |  Sunday 19 February 2006 om 19u28  |  United States
         Gepost met Internet Explorer 6.0 op Windows XP

    Did you ever fix this problem?

  • 7. jesus_  |  Monday 20 February 2006 om 13u42  |  Belgium
         Gepost met Firefox 1.5.0.1 op Windows XP

    Yeah, I threw out the CD-ROM drive and the problem was fixed.

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